What Kyra is
Kyra is a privacy-first trading journal for iOS. Trades stay on your device, and pattern detection runs on-device, waiting for sample size before it claims — every pattern shows its sample size and an uncertainty range across four tiers (Tracking, Hint, Signal, Proven) that sharpen as your history grows. Kyra does not analyze charts, generate signals, emit per-trade verdicts, connect to brokers, or run a chatbot. The reasoning is on Manifesto, Why on-device, and The math behind Kyra.
Pricing is $4.99/mo or $39.99/yr after a 7-day trial. Primary buyer: a retail self-executor with a strategy who wants to understand why they cannot always execute it.
What Profit AI is
Profit AI is a cross-platform (iOS, iPad, macOS, Vision) AI trading assistant built around a vision-LLM: upload a chart screenshot and it extracts indicators and chart patterns and emits a trade plan — entry zone, stop, take-profit, and a confidence rating. Around that it adds a strategy builder that scores each chart Ideal / Good / Not Ideal / Poor, a journal with broker OAuth auto-sync (MT4, MT5, FTMO, TopStep, Tradovate, IBKR), a 0–100 Trader Score, an LLM "Leak Discovery" surface, a 24/7 AI mentor chat, and gamified lessons.
It runs server-side LLM inference and requires an account; trades, chart uploads, journal notes, and mentor conversations all transit Profit AI's servers, and its App Store privacy label discloses a cross-app tracking SDK. Pricing spans multiple SKUs including weekly tiers, with a short trial. Primary buyer: a prop-firm trader running funded-challenge workflows.
Feature comparison
| Dimension | Kyra | Profit AI |
|---|---|---|
| Primary persona | Retail self-executor | Prop-firm trader (FTMO, TopStep, IBKR) |
| Storage | On-device, optional iCloud user-private sync | Cloud servers |
| Account required | No | Yes (email + password + SSO) |
| Cross-app tracking SDK | None | Active (per App Store privacy label) |
| Pattern detection approach | Sample-size-gated statistical inference, on-device | Vision-LLM + LLM-over-journal-data, server-side |
| Sample size shown per claim | Yes — every pattern shows its sample size and an uncertainty range | Not surfaced |
| Per-trade alignment verdict | None (not a recommendation engine) | Ideal / Good / Not Ideal / Poor (vs saved strategy) |
| Broker auto-sync via OAuth | No | Yes (MT4 / MT5 / FTMO / TopStep / Tradovate / IBKR) |
| Single discipline score | None | Trader Score 0–100, opaque weights |
| Pricing | $4.99/mo, $39.99/yr after 7-day trial | Multiple SKUs incl. weekly tiers, short trial |
| Platforms | iOS | iOS / iPad / macOS / Vision |
Both apps work; they work on different problems for different traders.
Where the difference actually matters
Per-trade verdicts. Profit AI scores a specific possible trade — Ideal, Good, Not Ideal, or Poor — against your saved rules. A verdict on a specific trade is, in function, a recommendation. Kyra never does this: its output is statistical observation about your past trades, never a verdict on the next one. The reasoning is on Manifesto (Section 2: Not a recommendation engine).
Mechanism honesty. Profit AI's Trader Score and Leak Discovery pass journal data through an LLM — the surfaced examples are reasonable, but the mechanism is opaque, and a trader cannot ask how many trades a claim was based on. Kyra surfaces individual patterns with the sample size and an uncertainty range shown on each, so every claim is auditable. It also has no prescriptive "fixes" column: the engine surfaces observations, never an instruction about the next trade.
Privacy by architecture. The App Store privacy labels tell the story. Profit AI's discloses tracking and identity-linked data, because trade content, chart uploads, and chat transit its servers. Kyra's discloses no identity-linked data and no cross-app tracking, because no trade content touches a server Kyra operates. Both labels are accurate; the choice is which architecture you want your journal to use.
Who should pick which
Pick Profit AI if you run a prop-firm workflow (FTMO, TopStep, Tradovate, IBKR), want an AI to analyze a chart screenshot and emit a trade plan, want a per-chart verdict against your saved strategy, want broker auto-sync or a chat mentor, or want the same product across iOS, iPad, macOS, and Vision.
Pick Kyra if you are a retail self-executor who wants trade data on-device with no account, pattern claims with explicit sample sizes and uncertainty ranges, predictable pricing, a sober UI without streaks or gamification, and a journal that is a mirror, not a coach.
Neither set of preferences is wrong. The two apps are aimed at different buyers with different problems.
What this page does not say
This is a comparison, not a put-down. Profit AI is competently built and useful for the trader it is built for — its chart analysis, broker sync, and pricing are for the buyer to evaluate, and its user base is real. What this page does say: the architectures are opposites (cloud + LLM + accounts vs on-device + classical statistics + no accounts), the trade-offs are real and visible in the auditable privacy labels, and the retail-self-executor vs prop-firm-trader split is the largest deciding factor. Pick the app aimed at the buyer you are.
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